SC Notes 2020 08 11

Arrangements

• Time: 2020-08-11 13:00 GMT
• Location: Web (Jitsi)
• Invitees: Perl Steering Committee members

Attendees

• Tony Cook (TonyC)
• Paul Evans (LeoNerd)
• Karl Williamson (khw)
• Todd Rinaldo (toddr)
• James Keenan (kid51)
• H.Merijn Brand (Tux)
• Sawyer (xsawyerx)
• John Lightsey (JD)
• Nicolas R. (atoomic)
• Ricardo S. (rjbs)

Meeting notes

Several people were not calling in from their usual location so the call was somewhat delayed by poor internet connections and repeated statements.

-e/-E discussion. How should it work on Perl 7?

-e

We believe that now and in the future, -e should start out with minimal features enabled. The goal of perl -e should be to run quick programs and requiring variable declarations among other things would be too confusing.

-E

Should -E include strict/warnings? We felt this should not be changed. perl -Mstrict -E... if you want strict.

How to disable things and return to v5 defaults when needed. (Feature downgrading)

• use v5 already will downgrade perl 7 defaults to a basic bundle.
  • We may need it to turn off features also.
  • The group did preferred features to not be turned off but research will need be done to determine if this is needed.
  • How do we turn off all features if we want to do this?
• The v7 feature bundle. v7? or v7.1.3?
  • Assuming a short major life cycle, should there be a 7.2 bundle or just a 7 bundle?
    • Yes we want that.
  • how does one do use v8 in perl 7? Many don't like v8.
    • use experimental ':v8';
    • use feature ':8.0';