[0001] A very *Real -Core- Discussion*

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Two friends in a bar (on a Friday night) after Beer a lot & talking about all the world's problems and their possible solutions, they come to the (obvious) conclusion that "We Need More Data"

Friends Talk:

• F1: No problem, we are in the 21st century! we have AI's, Algorithms, Arduinos, Raspberry PI, ESP32, PLC, PCs, Notebooks, Netbooks, Smartphones, Tablets, Wearables, SaaS, BaaS, Cloud Computing, WASM, Quantum Computing, mini satellites for private and civil use and all kind and type of sensors and nano technology materials.

• F2: You are absolutely right! We can build from 0 to 100 the best MVP (Minimum Viable Product) in a week!!

• F1: Exactly! We only need to launch a functional App to start collecting data in a non-invasive but participatory way, we can rely on embedded devices for real-time data, use backend services such as Firebase and Supabase for the reception, storage, sending and management of interactions between the different platforms, ecosystems and levels of analysis.

• F2: Cheers!!!!

• F1: Yup! It must have and be able to use maps, reader of all types and kind of codes (Bars, QR, PDF417), take photos with gps, record audios, TTS, accessibility support, a beautiful UI, excellent UX through pages, tabs, chips, etc. and above all an excellent WebView to create surveys dynamically (html, js, css), so that it is only a matter of making an https RPC call to Supabase.

• F2: The problem is that it must be multiplatform, you have to decide well which language to use, Java will take us years and is not widely accepted.

• F1: Don't worry, C# is a language that masters absolutely every known technology platform, ecosystem, device, and system. It is used by a wide range of high-end companies, as well as being effective, efficient, safe and highly optimized. Not to mention, it has the full support of tech giant MS! and has a huge and active community of Developers. {It's not me saying it, the whole C# community says it, At least the MS-MVPs 'code tutorial masters'}

• F2: I was thinking of MIT AppInventor, FlutterFlow, Nowa, DhWhise, because Flutter is also cross-platform.

• F1: No way! Dart can't compare to C#, just as Flutter can't compare to MAUI! and believe me that whatever those Flutter Frameworks SDKs can offer you, the .NET ecosystem can offer you more and better.

And that's how I took a full C# course and watched absolutely all the videos and read all the documentation on MAUI.

But here is the 'F2' friend!!!... trying to:

• Get a 'ModalBottomSheet'-style page pop up where content detail response on control taped.
• Get an iOS, Android Scanner (CodeBar, QR, PDF417, Aztec) working
• Getting OSM Maps Support (Embedding JAVA lib) {for HeatMaps, Markers, Geometry, etc.} (Google maps eat your wallet).
• To keep my CollectionView from crashing loading 120 CustomControl (with Beautiful UI & excellent UX).
• To make https requests work (easily) via RPC to Supabase (so that the server takes care of the data manipulation and exposes only the URL and Public KEY on code).
• To make compatible some types of formats that PostgreSQL does support but not SQL, for an 'offline' mode (local storage).
• To get some data stored encrypted.
• If app it's first time (installed) start in PageX, else if Pol_Read = True start in PageY Else PageZ

I've even tried to meddle in the business of running the WebView with dynamic surveys and forms, not to mention data capture, validation, and sending to the server (with persistence in between). or use Blazor combination.

Yes... 'Basic' illuminati LVL 33 .NET MAUI Dev Stuffs.

1.- Real Core Discussion

Most of the requests for projects and jobs in .NET are from companies/businesses and blah, blah, blah... [At least that's what they say everywhere (Divulgators, MVPs, MS, third parties, etc.)]

Let's take a look...

But it seems strange, weird, and even bizarre (at some point), because; where industrial processes, logistics, forms, surveys, TODO's, schedules, BackOffice, dashboards, excel, etc, are involved (All in one), There is literally no bibliography, examples, tutorials, shared experiences, snippets, benchmarks, even guides or roadmaps about it (real ones, with real metrics, etc).

But... What about small businesses (selling chicken-dinner in the neighborhood), weekend ideas that turn into a startup (automated greenhouses with their own electronics and software), discussion forum and support for university students by students, etc.

Taking into account that in the process of creating an app there are many things to take into account, architecture, structure, security, patterns, etc. But when you start investigating, you literally find nothing about it, even though in .NET conf 2024 the team said that there were just over 2.5 million Apps made on MAUI.

And a lot of ''Ooops!' showing the ''improvements and compatibility'' of the framework, platform and code interop's. :)

Real Life Programming TASK's (Ex. Warehouse Products Distribution Company):

• Route maps with their respective maps for delivery (Gps included).
• Code scanning to place products orders.
• App (Android, iOS) for clients & customers.
• App (Android, iOS) for workers.
• App (Android, iOS) for managers (and other boss types/kind).
• BackOffice Apps (Excel, Dashboards, etc) {Linux, Mac, Windows}.
• Pay methods.
• Data Science Support (Bricks, PostgreSQL, Collections, Graph, etc).
• Real-time monitoring of industrial processes from the phone.
• Turn lights and air conditioning on and off before arriving at the office. (Coffe to)
• Forms and surveys of quality, attention, etc.
• Etc.

With the above list in mind:

Answer to your self or Think about it

• Have you ever tried to make/create a (Real-life troubleshooting) smartphone app with only the information provided in the documentation, tutorials and (obviously) the fantastic code example of 'counter app' or 'calculator'?

• Using a native Java/otlin (Like OSM) library just by following the documentation and tutorials?

And please don't answer 'Yes', because it's as easy as they put it... At this point in the game, all native libraries would be available to the community, with full and optimized support, such that programming in C# within MAUI would literally be to do it in native.

• All application examples and code provided by MS and third parties are desktop-focused, either windows or mac (except for the bi-page, local storage examples, with 10 images, 3 labels, where Quasimodo has better UI, using Shell for navigation and forcing an MVVM for the label and color of a button)

But when they finish with the example, they say: 'But don't use Shell because there are controls that are not compatible (like the ones you have to use for real) and the MVVM pattern is not always necessary'.

• Is there any benchmark that compares the use of nesting patterns of views and controls with true datasets, animations, and beautiful UI styles/formats?

(Ex. ContentPage>GridView>CollectionView>CustomControl: RoundCorners, Animations, Shaders, etc. IS FASTER THAN ContentPage>CollectionView>GridView>CustomControl: RoundCorners, Animations, Shaders, etc) on 'System Grade Real Life Apps' (Heavy use by 5k users).

2.- Yes, obviously this is a criticism

About the learning process, but it should not be taken as an attack per se, but rather as a

• 'hmmmm.... Good point, because we are talking about 'easy' for those who have 15 years of experience being illuminatti lvl 33 in .NET, but not for those who are just starting out (and already want to give up or die).
• It's not about 'No-Code/Low-Code' platform, it's about there being NO-CODE and info, docs, really good to learn from!
• It's about indirectly cooperate so that the Internet and platforms continue to be filled with programs and applications with bugs, prone to viruses and malware attacks, insecure and poorly optimized languages that consume unnecessary resources, etc.

3.- Why post it here and not in the MAUI community?

Because if we make a ranking between plugins, tools, workflow and third-party platforms... Uno Platform wins the Nobel Prize.

• At the time of this post, it has no rival and with the upcoming release of Hot Design, it will be light years away from being reached.
• Its figma plugin makes it very versatile, but there is no true roadmap with a guide of good practices (optimal, effective, efficient and safe) of UI/UX design pattern (pages + layouts + controls + styles,) for: JR's, Trainees, Enthusiasts, Freelancers, solo team, 2 Drunks Friends Who Had an Idea. ()
• (optimal, effective, efficient and safe) That's why companies choose C# and .NET for their development... ¿and you?

4.- Please leave your comment

You don't necessarily have to agree, I just want to know if I'm wrong or misfocused in thinking that I'm wasting time, resources and energies on a project that only an illuminati lvl 33 with 15 years of .NET experience knows isn't worth it.

• But I really don't want to be the typical programmer who helps make the internet a hotbed of bugs.

P/D:

Im friend "F2" known as DR. JU (Jonathan Urbina) and sounds like Dr. Who (in Spanish {Argentina}).

Friend "F1" killed himself with 7 shoots from back as his car rolled down the hill (set on fire), after offering Blazor to Microsoft's web development team.