Unacceptable Support for Linux #11800
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Almost every platform is nearly unacceptable cause of basic bugs with the collections control and binding issues that nobody is resolving for a long time P.S.: Uno is commercial. Only paid work would be done |
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@darkoverlordofdata thanks for your feedback. It seems you're hitting a series of small issues on various scenarios, which generally need individual bug reports. Here's some feedback on some:
This is likely related to the .NET JIT starting up. Depending on the device you're using it's probably best to use either Ready To Run or .NET Native to get better performance.
What device do you use? You may be running with software rendering that is generally slower.
Can you open an issue with a video and repro, if possible?
You're likely using framebuffer apps. If you tried some our samples, it may be that this block is missing.
You've been trying samples built with the previous set of samples that were using what is now called the "blank" preset. The new default template uses the Material theme. If you wish to have a blank app, you'll need to use
We're mainly working based on our clients needs first, this is how we sustain Uno Platform. If you wish to get your issues addressed faster, give us a hello at [email protected]! |
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Thank you - You are correct, I apologize for any flame, I was having a
migraine, I do not communicate well when this happens.
The bug I was referring to is this:
#11066
I find this bug gives me a migraine, it gave me the migraine I was
struggling with the other day.
There is a workaround - use an older release - I found this project (
https://steven-giesel.com/blogPost/b2234ada-0978-4c7b-841e-ca6a255247b0) -
it is using a release from prior year. I can then upgrade when the bug is
corrected.
What I am struggling with is how to find this intentionally - for example
rolling back incrementally until the bug is gone. Is there a way of doing
that?
…On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 5:12 AM Jérôme Laban ***@***.***> wrote:
@darkoverlordofdata <https://github.com/darkoverlordofdata> thanks for
your feedback.
It seems you're hitting a series of small issues on various scenarios,
which generally need individual bug reports.
Here's some feedback on some:
- I get a prolonged black screen at startup.
This is likely related to the .NET JIT starting up. Depending on the
device you're using it's probably best to use either Ready To Run
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/deploying/ready-to-run> or .NET
Native
<https://platform.uno/docs/articles/features/using-skia-gtk.html?q=gtk#net-native-aot-support>
to get better performance.
- The general performance is poor.
What device do you use? You may be running with software rendering
<https://platform.uno/docs/articles/features/using-skia-gtk.html?q=gtk#troubleshooting-opengl-integration>
that is generally slower.
- Components (text boxes, buttons, etc) flicker and jiggle.
Can you open an issue with a video and repro, if possible?
- In some cases, the keyboard stops working when I exit the program,
and the only way to recover from this is a hard/power reset.
You're likely using framebuffer apps. If you tried some our samples, it
may be that this block is missing
<https://github.com/unoplatform/uno.extensions/blob/8d491ea360dda7721afc9bf872dc5fe6db35bc68/src/Uno.Extensions.Templates/content/unoapp-extensions/MyExtensionsApp.1.Skia.Linux.FrameBuffer/Program.cs#L18-L32>
.
Then I found this tutorial - (
https://steven-giesel.com/blogPost/b2234ada-0978-4c7b-841e-ca6a255247b0)
which has none of these issues - it’s actually impressive to see. When I
compare the *.Skia.Grk.csproj on these projects, I see that the project
which works references a different set of components - it uses Fluent
design components. The problem with that is these are Windows style, not
what anyone expects to see on Linux.
You've been trying samples built with the previous set of samples that
were using what is now called the "blank" preset. The new default template
uses the Material theme. If you wish to have a blank app, you'll need to
use --preset=blank
<https://platform.uno/docs/articles/get-started-dotnet-new.html?tabs=net7%2Cwindows#uno-platform-application>
.
In general, these are unacceptable, I would not release an application
targeting Linux based on Uno in its current state.
The amount of work it would take to get professional looking results on
Linux really makes Uno a non-starter for me.
We're mainly working based on our clients needs first, this is how we
sustain Uno Platform
<https://platform.uno/blog/sustaining-the-open-source-uno-platform/>. If
you wish to get your issues addressed faster, give us a hello at
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Thanks for the update on the issue. Indeed we're working to get it fixed, though it may be specifically related to the use of material. If you use fluent styles only (by removing any material related entries in |
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no, I didn't realize I could do that. It works, and that's a better
solution, easy to revert once the bug is fixed. Thank you!
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Thanks for the update on the issue. Indeed we're working to get it fixed,
though it may be specifically related to the use of material. If you use
fluent styles only (by removing any material related entries in
appresources.xaml or app.xaml if any), this may not be a problem. Have
you tried this?
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I suspect this is induced by your templates, see my prior issue #11753 .
When I try your demo’s on github (unoplatform/uno.Samples, unoplatform.uno.todo) on Linux, they do not work well.
In general, these are unacceptable, I would not release an application targeting Linux based on Uno in its current state.
Then I found this tutorial - (https://steven-giesel.com/blogPost/b2234ada-0978-4c7b-841e-ca6a255247b0) which has none of these issues - it’s actually impressive to see. When I compare the *.Skia.Grk.csproj on these projects, I see that the project which works references a different set of components - it uses Fluent design components. The problem with that is these are Windows style, not what anyone expects to see on Linux.
When I try simply “dotnet new unoapp -o MyApp”, I do not get the Fluent components, and MyApp has the same problems. It seems that to get a working Linux app, I need to clone https://github.com/linkdotnet/BlogExamples/tree/main/TodoApp, and strip out the original code, adding my own code back in. So I would say that the dev experience is also unacceptable.
The amount of work it would take to get professional looking results on Linux really makes Uno a non-starter for me.
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