Revolt
Multiple identities per account #76
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Personally we like the third option, with multiple identities! There are plenty of times where me and someone else are co-fronting and want to say a similar thing, so we send one message, but it's frustrating where it seems like only one of us is actually talking when we're both wanting to get our say |
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Extending this to also have shared identities sort of like organization accounts would be a niche but appreciated feature, especially for official communications. |
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Definitely agree there, as that feature was extremely useful on telegram so administrators could use a shared alias for announcements and the like. |
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Very much agreed! This would be immensely helpful. |
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another thing this would probably be immensely useful for: bridge bots. it'd be a lot nicer from the revolt side of things vs abusing webhooks for it because unlike webhooks a bot could create multiple identities that don't have to be reused for every message like a webhook is. also: identities could include better information about where the bridged user is coming from and which bot is doing the bridging without showing it in the main message (also unlike webhooks) also there's also a whole slew of discord bots that have all kinds of silly minigames and whatnot, can def see huge potential in them being able to spawn new identities for whatever sort of things people can come up with |
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That's fascinating, I hadn't considered bots in my original proposal. Strongly agree though, no doubt this would be extremely useful. |
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I've always imagined bridges to be more native then bots but still use a system like webhooks, this would work just as well it not better because this would allow more modularity. It also solves the issue of bots like this being basically unmoderatable. Making a setting for requesting different identities to be treated like different user accounts would help with moderation bots, although it might still be a bit problematic, unless each identity is granted a different ID, maybe based off the original if that doesn't conflict with the spec? |
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We would very much like this feature too! Would be even better than PluralKit since it could be made to apply to DMs. 🕵️ |
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+1, have been bouncing around an idea for a discord-like app with this feature for a while now. Having an integrated way for users to post under aliases that still link back to the main account in a clear and easily accessible way is something I've been interested in since fiddling with roleplay forums as a kid, and as a plural person it's super handy for us I'd be willing to help make this happen once I've got time to take a look at everything 👀 |
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This would be huge, it's everything we've ever wanted in a chat app, and would absolutely cement Revolt as the only choice for us and many others. Please, please do this! |
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We commented on this before, but for others interested: this is currently being worked on with the masquerade feature :D As far as I know it's only available through the API but it should get added into the client as well |
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As someone who has been dealing with systems more and more adding this would solve so many issues. PluralKit breaks so many features bots, search, not role permissions at least, but it does break visual roles. Having this be integrated into the main chat app would automatically solve all these issues. |
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This feature should be tightly coupled with permissions to control which user can use which identities, in a many to many fashion. |
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Strongly disagree - if one of the goals of this is to provide an accessibility tool, gatekeeping (at a permissions level) which identities may be used is contradictory. As long as the UI makes it obvious which account the message is coming from, I think it should be fairly simple to moderate troublemakers, or - when the permissions system is more fleshed out - remove masquerade permissions from them. |
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The ability to use masquerades (which are ultimately the implementation of this) can be controlled per-role/channel by enabling/disabling the Use Masquerades permission. Masquerades are also user specific - they're not "shared", although nothing is stopping two users with the Use Masquerades permission from using the same name and profile picture. |
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@Rexogamer I meant something like user aliases which would allow things like posting a message in behalf of an institution (hence many to manyness), rather than masquerades. |
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That seems, to me at least, to be a separate idea. As far as I can tell, this discussion is about personal masquerades - we may add shared masquerades, but for now shared accounts are the best available option for posting as an organisation and such. |
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Reboosting this particular request, as the new username system makes this much easier to do. |
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boosting this too, hope it gets added soon |
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this would be great! boosting as well |
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This would be immensely helpful, I hope it makes it into the new client! If not, I plan to try to implement it myself anyways. |
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This would be so so helpful to have! Hope this gets implemented. |
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We would really like to have a feature like this! It would help us when communicating with others so much! |
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We think this would work very well, would prefer this over Discord's webhook function stuff |
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Still very excited for this feature! I would also ask that it please be named something else, like "Proxies" or "Profiles" or "Display Profiles" or "Sub-Profiles". There's an unfortunate stereotype of systems and pluralfolk just "faking" or "pretending", and the name "Masquerades" unfortunately affirms that stereotype. |
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what repo should this be made an issue on? |
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revoltchat/backend |
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thanks bunches! |
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pleeeease please can this be real someday so i can fully abandon discord <3 |
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This is a pretty specific request, so bear with me.
Summary
On Discord, there's an ecosystem of bots that exist purely to resend messages using a different username or avatar. Because Discord has no native support for this, they use webhooks - so they appear as follows:
This post proposes adding a system for multiple identities per account to Revolt, while the systems are still new and malleable.
Rationale
There are two major groups I have in mind with this feature.
1. Plural systems
For those that aren't aware, there exists a subset of the population that are known as plural systems. This term is used to describe people with pluralities - multiple people within one body, so to speak. If you're not familiar with the concept, feel free to take a look at this primer. Members of plural systems are sometimes called "alters", if you're already familiar with that term.
Plurality tools like the bots I've mentioned above are a key point of comfort and communication for members of plural systems. They allow each individual member to interact with an avatar and name of their own, which means they're not constrained to a single identity. However, Discord doesn't go far enough, here - there are strict rate limits on nickname and avatar changes (which would already be incredibly burdensome, especially given how fast switches can happen and the fact that there may be multiple members chatting at once), and no built-in identity system.
A properly integrated solution is something Revolt could break ground on here, and it would be a massive bonus for all plural systems.
2. Roleplayers
Another common use for bots like those I've mentioned above is for role-playing servers. As you can probably tell, having multiple identities available at the push of a button would be extremely convenient.
Niche use-cases
I could also envision other use-cases here, such as staff members using separate identities for personal and official communications - I'm sure there are other possibilities.
Concept
There are many ways this could be exposed in the frontend. I'll leave the configuration side of this to the community and developers, but I've had a couple of ideas on how the UX might look:
You can probably tell I'm not a graphic designer, haha
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